tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11511673.post5229449523397743768..comments2024-01-08T11:08:42.530-05:00Comments on in-fraction: Evolution: three faithful responsestchittomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15603445266088083067noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11511673.post-12292549740027436882021-08-13T18:03:22.870-04:002021-08-13T18:03:22.870-04:00Roger Olson has been writing a series about his li...Roger Olson has been writing a series about his life as a theologian. Today's entry addresses Greg Boyd's embrace of Open Theism and Olson's defense of it as a possibility in the evangelical system. A meeting was called. Olson picks it up: ""About fifteen of us met in a conference room for an all day confab about open theism. It began with Timothy George, then dean of Beeson Divinity School, presenting arguments against open theism. I was convinced that all of his arguments against open theism <em>would</em> apply also to classical Arminianism. (George was and I assume is a Calvinist.) Then Northern Baptist Seminary dean Timothy Weber came into the room and presented arguments for open theism as not outside evangelical boundaries. After lunch Greg was given the opportunity to explain his version of open theism and defend it and himself. He did an excellent job and answered questions very well." I site Olson's comment to point out that theology was being wed, in this point, too closely to orthodoxy. A philosophical theology was being treated like a Biblical theology. I think it is wise to be careful about these categories--not every one deserves the certainty of a martyr.tchittomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15603445266088083067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11511673.post-91862239126182098362021-08-13T17:58:19.825-04:002021-08-13T17:58:19.825-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.tchittomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15603445266088083067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11511673.post-11352362500240913112021-08-13T17:58:13.336-04:002021-08-13T17:58:13.336-04:00Where, then, would you put Tielhardians? And how w...Where, then, would you put Tielhardians? And how would you differentiate their position?tchittomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15603445266088083067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11511673.post-53891871556934737652008-03-31T17:52:00.000-04:002008-03-31T17:52:00.000-04:00I'm not sure Tielhard would have appreciated being...I'm not sure Tielhard would have appreciated being lumped in with the process crowd. My director is of the Tielhardian vein (she's a Thomas Berryite) and I've just finished a course on the whole matter of evolution as a way of doing science and religion. There are also the Creationists, but their approach to science lacks a lot of integrity. I would definitely distinguish the Tielhardians from the Process thinkers (Barbour, Haught, etc.)One of Freedomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02479227411431959461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11511673.post-78797300374466866552008-02-25T22:08:00.000-05:002008-02-25T22:08:00.000-05:00Thank you for writing, Jason. It is a pleasure to ...Thank you for writing, Jason. It is a pleasure to hear from you. The way you link the day of judgment and the day of creation (properly seeing the judgment of God and the creative power of God as the same thing) is, well, inspired. You opened my eyes, that's for sure. I also appreciate what you have to say about desiring to know more than is good for us. The Bible tells us what is good for us, which is usually too far for our hearts and not far enough for our heads. In grappling with the question of natural selection versus Genesis, science versus faith, it is a hard thing to make sure you don't go too far. Yours is a good word.tchittomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15603445266088083067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11511673.post-77157012496045141232008-02-24T16:08:00.000-05:002008-02-24T16:08:00.000-05:00In recent years I have come to the conclusion that...In recent years I have come to the conclusion that speculation on or attempts to divine the true nature of God's involvement in the origins of life are fated to mirror the efforts of those who (despite our Lord's specific statement on the subject) continue to seek the exact date that Jesus will return. Since Jesus said that only the Father knows that date it would seem logical that we should acquiesce to His sovereignty, but many Christians don't. My personal thought is that it is he same for the nuances of creation and science and how we came to be. <BR/><BR/>Why is it that we try to know the unknowable? Can we see God's fingerprints now and again?..certainly, but to me much of our meanderings in scientific theology (as perhaps in theology itself) smacks of mortal hubris. Paul declares that we know in part...(and he was taken to the third level where he was given such revelations that he had to bear an infirmity that would control his pride)...and that eventually the time shall come (not in this world) that we shall know in full. We of the 21st century believe(as seemingly each generation is fond of thinking) that our accumulated "knowledge" has given us greater understanding, but the scribes and pharisees (supposed interpreters of the oracles of God)had spent centuries creating such a convoluted human wisdom that in the end only obfuscated the truth that lay in God's Word. They were unable to see the forest for the trees and it cost them all they had.<BR/><BR/>It is lamentable that many seem to desire to echo their soulish accomplishments these days...instead of focusing on Jesus' promise in John 14:24. Is our faith in our own ability to reason out what God has done or do we rest in our faith that He will give us the truths he wants us to have? I for one have begun to pray that I only know what He alone wishes for me to know...not what the world, other men, the enemy, or my own intellect would devise.., that I would allow Him to fulfill His expressly stated will for my life as recorded in John 16:12-15. Is this too simple an answer for the soul/intellect of man? I wonder if many in the Body are able to put aside the apparent desire to be the authors and finishers of their faiths long enough to find out?emdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04215666933107378218noreply@blogger.com